Federal 22lr 36gr Copper Plated 525 Ct Hp Review

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1. I picked up some cerise-boxed Federal Lightning .22LR ammo @ Walmart today. Previously (pre-panic) they had blueish-boxed Federal Champion high velocity .22LR. What is the difference between Champion and Lightning? They have the same bullet (xl gr solid) and muzzle velocity (1240 fps). Also price the same.

2. Champion is their friction match ammo make. They seem to have dropped the Lightning brand name and call all their target ammo Champion now.

3. The old Federal Lightning load is the same as the Champion 510 load that Walmart sells in the 50-ct box (or information technology used to be). They simply renamed information technology. Check the load # on the box. If they are changing back to the Lightning proper noun/packaging, that is news actually. Could exist something special for Walmart perhaps?

4. Never heard of Lightning, simply I can tell you that IMO the Champion ammo sucks hardcore in my Marlin 795. In a ten rouund mag I usually become 2-3 FTF or FTE. For some reason Champion works fine in my Vicious .22, though.

   It's odd, because I've never had a problem with whatsoever of Federal's other products. Their .22 majority packs are great, and both the American Eagle make and their shotshells have performed superbly in my experience.

5. Many of the gun writers have touted the accurateness of Federal Lightnings for such inexpensive 22LR ammo. Information technology is nice that Federal has maintained a good reputation for 40 years.

6. I've had bad luck with the Federal bulk packs and won't buy them again. Weak underpowered ammo that doesn't cycle semi-autos well. Never had that trouble with any of the Winchester or Remington majority packs. Though I accept had lots of duds with the Remington Aureate Bullets in the past. The former Federal Lightning ammo was okay in my stance, but nothing spectacular. I've always considered it just barely a step higher up the majority fodder and non really worth the price.

7. I rarely buy ANY bulk packs of 22LR ammo (all brands). I really don't intendance what the cost is on them. I similar private boxes in either 50 or 100ct boxes. I have a few for ammo testing and family unit outings, but that is nigh it. I would guess I have peradventure ten lying around.

   If Federal is changing the proper name back to Lightning again, I welcome information technology. There are mode too many "Champion" boxes that many don't realize there are a number of different loadings (and price). I bought my first brick of Federal Champion Target #714 at Dicks thinking it was overpriced Walmart 510's. Couldn't be further from the truth.

   I don't know exactly when Federal inverse the proper noun from Lightning (1990'due south perhaps?) . Back then, they had Power Points and Lightnings. The Power Points were copper washed and I used them in my 22 pistols primarily.

8. I was at Walmart tonight and they had a new type of Federal bulk pack. It was the simply .22lr ammo they had too CCI Minimags so I figured what the hell, I will try it once more to see if information technology is whatever different than my old Federal bulk packs that date back to what Walmart was selling in 2004. Lamentable that they but come in 325 round boxes now instead of 550. And of form they cost twice as much as the old majority packs at nearly $xv.

9. I can tell y'all that IMO the Champion ammo sucks hardcore in my Marlin 795.

   I judge that just goes to testify yous that even among the same model of rimfire rifle, they can be picky about ammo. My 795 loves Fed 510, so long every bit it'due south fresh. My experience is the stuff doesn't age well unless intendance is taken to continue information technology dry and temp-controlled.

   jm

10. I just opened this new box of Federal. They're all bare lead, no copper coating like the old ones..

11. The old ones were not copper washed. Is that you over on RFC?

12. I've shot thousands of the Federal majority-packs through my rimfires, especially my S&W M41 with no complaints.

13. I shoot Federal Champion through my GSG-v with no issues...what is the departure....OP said they both read 40 gr. 1240 fps...are you sure?????? My Federal Champion are copper plated hollow points, 525 rds. value pack from Wal-Mart...They are 36 gr. an 1280fps.....

14. Had to go look at my old lightnings before i posted. Pure lead hp. work great in my ruger simply not at all in my other semis.

15. I'm not referring to the copper plated HP bulk packs. I'm talking about the l-round boxes of 40gr solid lead rounds -- "Champion" (blueish box) and "Lightning" (cerise box). I checked the load numbers between them and they're both 510. So post #3 sounds right.

16. Aaaaahhhh.....you lot know I've never seen the 50rd. packs, its always the 2 kinds of bulk packs, thank you for getting me straightened out.

17. I retrieve when I bought lightnings for $5.00 a brick at a Freds Dept Store. I loved them in my Marlin lx. I used the powerpoint HP for hunting. I miss the Lightning brand in the Federal Line.

18. @outlimit said "I but opened this new box of Federal. They're all bare atomic number 82, no copper blanket similar the one-time ones.."

    Federal has numerous 22LR loads including a 40gr solid and as well a copper coated hollow indicate. The 525 value pack I've seen is always the copper coated HP. I've just seen the 40gr solid sold in bulk in the 500 pack which contains 10 boxes of 50. I believe Federal calls that round it'south target load. BTW, that 40gr solid is my favorite inexpensive 22LR load. Shoots great in my Savage bolt and decently in my other 22s. IMHO 22LR rifles are the most finicky beasts around in terms of what ammo they like. When I get a new 22LR I try many different types of ammo in it and then feed it whatever it likes best.

19. seems I think the 'Lightning' was a bare lead slug not copper done.
    it did well in some guns I've shot it in but I didn't mike the o.d. wish I had checked it at present. CCI Blazer .22LR's practice a tad improve it seems merely more than $$. it'due south a bare lead slug not 'washed'.

20. Last calendar month I purchased one box of Federal Bulk 550 for $12.67 38 copper hp at Walmart. Today all they had was Remington Majority 550 36 Gold HP for $16.97. Guy at the counter said 22lr and 9mm still running out the door. Walmart has a six box limit.

21. That sounds like Auto-Match. It'south a college-grade ammo than the 550-packs, which, BTW, is still produced--your shop is probably simply all out of it.

    Auto-Match is decent ammo, but there was a bad batch a year or so ago. More than info hither:

    http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217451

    I had four boxes of the bad lot, and Federal replaced them plus a few actress boxes and reimbursed me for all the shipping. However, a few months ago I bought some other box at a Wal-Mart without checking the lot number; I figured enough fourth dimension had passed that all the bad ammo was gone. Guess what? Squib City. Wal-Mart has some mighty large warehouses, so the ammo you purchase at that place may have been in the pipeline a LONG time.

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